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Joanna
"Above & Beyond" Member (200+ posts)
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Here's the deal. I sat without batting an eyelash while the
surgeon described in great detail the peeling back of my cheek
to get to the bone. All fine. However, I just read the detailed
procedure for the insertion of the PEG feeding tube that has
been ordered and I am bouncing off the walls, thinking of
changing my name and leaving town, and other assorted ill-advised
actions.
Will someone who has experienced this please tell me it is
not the medieval torture I have worked myself up to believe
it is? It is not the idea of having it that freaks me out,
but the getting of it.
I know, I know, I have far greater problems than this, but
this is the sticking point.
I will very much appreciate any assistance in getting my poor,
addled brain back on track.
Joanna the Unraveled
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213 | From: Pacific Northwest | Registered:
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Brian
Hill
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Of all the things that I was put through during my treatments,
this was the least discomforting procedure. It took all of
about 15 minutes. I can't believe that I had such an apprehension
of what turned out to be a really simple deal. I think that
the part I found the most disconcerting, (before it was actually
done) was that having a tube and a bag that attached to it
when I wanted to eat, was....how I imagined really sick people
to look. Is that dumb or what? Here I am with stage three
cancer, and I'm thinking about looking like a really sick
person. Unbelievable! Perhaps it was the visual confirmation
that I WAS really sick that bothered me. It sounds really
weird to think that you are going to have this moveable tube
in the front of your body, but once it was there, most of
the time it was just under my shirt and out of sight. When
it was time to pour in my 3-4 cans of Ensure, (three times
a day) the bag went on and I hung it up on a nail by my easy
chair in front of the TV....that was it. By the time I had
the tube put in, (by the way, this thing is smaller than a
pencil in diameter), I had gone weeks struggling painfully
to swallow things. I couldn't even get down canned protein
drinks by the time my doctors said, "that's it, no more weight
loss." And 11 months later when it was time to take it out,
(I was living in Santa Fe, far away from MD Anderson) I just
snipped a little thread in it, and it pulled right out. Freaked
my wife out! She wanted me to go back to Houston to have the
stupid thing removed. Totally painless, didn't bleed, I didn't
leak all over the place like I thought I was going to...it
was just no big deal. Believe me, compared to everything else,
this is a cakewalk.
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Brian, stage 3 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director.
"The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality.
The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a
servant."
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368 | From: Laguna Beach, CA | Registered:
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Joanna
"Above & Beyond" Member (200+ posts)
Member # 41
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Thank you, Brian. I appreciate your response. I shall proceed,
then, with the idea that it is a cakewalk. You may expect
to hear from me if that proves not to be the case (grin).
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213 | From: Pacific Northwest | Registered:
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Brian
Hill
Administrator
Member # 4
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While all people's tolerance of things is different, radiation
sickness was one of the worst things I've ever been through.
Come to think of it, that neck dissection was pretty low on
life's list of pleasures as well....... While I know that
you are just joking, it's all relative. But I have yet to
talk to someone who wasn't glad that they had the tube in
retrospect. Given all that, the one thing that is completely
subjective, but universal at the same time, is the fear of
the unknown.
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Brian, stage 3 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director.
"The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality.
The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a
servant."
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368 | From: Laguna Beach, CA | Registered:
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Joanna
"Above & Beyond" Member (200+ posts)
Member # 41
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Must have been something in the water; I'm okay with the tube
thing today. HOWEVER, would you care to expand upon your comment
regarding neck dissection? I may have failed to mention the
new, egg-sized lump on my neck that prompted the "d" word
from the surgeon. Not a cakewalk I would guess? (Have you
given any thought to charging by the hour for hand holding???)
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213 | From: Pacific Northwest | Registered:
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Brian
Hill
Administrator
Member # 4
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If I got paid by the hour for this, I would just about be
ready to retire in Tahiti.... Unfortunately, my $1.00 per
year salary from the foundation this year won't allow it.
Believe me, I am really happy to help, hand hold, or whatever
to assist you in making good decisions and coping with the
uncertainties when they come up... Also realize that I am
only giving back what someone did for me. Something you too
might do for another behind you in this process, somewhere
down the road. When I was in treatment, and particularly afterwards
when I seemed to be getting worse instead of better for so
long (actually a normal recovery), there was a person who
answered my tons of questions and emails diligently, thoughtfully,
and patiently.....even when I was so depressed and frustrated
my tone and attitude would have made a lesser mentor turn
tail. I am forever grateful to that person. We are all, like
it or not, in a big club. The more we help each other, the
easier it is for everyone who is a member of this unfortunate
band to get through this crappy place, and onto the rest of
our lives. No one gets through this alone, and no question
or insecurity is unimportant.
Regarding the neck dissection. Between the radiation and the
surgery, it was defiantly the lesser of the two evils. It
didn't require a daily "dealing with it" like the long recovery
from nuclear medicine. I went in one day and went to sleep,
and that night it was over. Two weeks later, most of the discomfort
from the procedure was over. Although I was definitely pushing
that self-dosing morphine button by my bed like crazy the
first two days. (Of course they don't tell you that it will
only give you so much per hour, regardless of how many times
you push it.) I almost wore the paint off of the damn thing
in the first 48 hours. On the third day I went home. Yes,
with enough staples in my neck to look like I had a zipper
running around it, but out of there and home. I might add
that for as bad as I thought it looked then, the scar isn't
any big thing now, and isn't that noticeable. There were about
4-5 months of having a weirdly lumpy neck, as the lymph fluids
which no longer had a place to go, built up in the surrounding
tissues. (See the pictures of this in the people section,
founders story.) They eventually found new pathways out of
there, and I settled into the look that I have now. While
I am missing a pretty good chunk of the right side of my neck,
most people don't notice at a casual glance. Besides, I'm
at an age now where my vanity is waning.I'm just glad to be
here, and enjoying life.
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Brian, stage 3 oral cancer survivor. OCF Founder and Director.
"The first responsibility of a leader is to define reality.
The last is to say thank you. In between, the leader is a
servant."
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368 | From: Laguna Beach, CA | Registered:
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Joanna
"Above & Beyond" Member (200+ posts)
Member # 41
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Now see, Brian? That is EXACTLY the kind of thing I need to
know -- the swelling due to trapped lymph. And you can count
on me running my mouth (fingers?) if it will help anyone following
me. That is but one aspect of the Grand Surgical Adventure,
but one which would have occasioned wasted worry time had
I not known about it in advance. Scars? I don't give a grand
hoo-haw (quaint regionalism) about those. At this point I
will settle for the side of the grass that's green, with all
margins clean. Thank you, AGAIN!
Joanna, Reassured
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213 | From: Pacific Northwest | Registered:
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Ilene
Supporting Member (50+ posts)
Member # 116
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I was also totally freaked by the idea of the PEG tube. When
I was having my tongue and neck surgery (actually 4th surgery
but that's a long story for another time) I told the doctors
I didn't think I could deal with the possibilty of not speaking
or eating again. As it turned out I was able to do both after
surgery turned out to be less extensive that feared. However,
I had the worst case of radiation burn from that treatment
that any of my local docs had seen. I refused the PEG tube
for many weeks and was hospitalized on IV nutrition until
I was so ill that the docs told me I had no choice but to
take the tube. Of course for me it was major surgery because
I'd had previous stomach surgery. However the surgery went
fine and didn't even add a new scar because the used the old
one running down my middle. I had the tube 3 months - I didn't
like it but I will agree it was necessary. As usual for me
the removal was not as easy as the one described in another
message but still was a fairly simple office procedure (I
guess I do have one new scar - the small indentation where
the tube was).
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